From time to time we hear complaints about this or that player sniping, and not contributing enough in terms of flag getting, or protecting. Atleast not directly.
While I think sniping is viable in attacking and defending, I do think it can ruin the game, in some situations.
I think there is a few ways of dealing with it.
(1) Ban it out-right. (Disable sniper class, and lock rifle from weapon menu)
(2) Ban it on certain days.
(3) Enable sniper rifle when we hit a certain amount of players, maybe in conjunction with the walls.
(4) Lessen the maximum damage and/or increase the charge time.
(5) Make it fire a projectile, instead of hitscan.
(6) Make it more costly.
(7) Make kevlar cheaper and / or stackable. So you could take 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 etc damage from stacking extra.
(8) Make a bullet proof helmet available. Blocking the headshot damage.
(9) Make the leg shot effect wear off.
(10) Make a reload time after each shot.
(11) Enable voting on whether the rifle can be used, on a given map.
Sniper's Rifle
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Re: Sniper's Rifle
Agreed, 100% (grrr)Jonan wrote:From time to time we hear complaints about this or that player sniping, and not contributing enough in terms of flag getting, or protecting. Atleast not directly.
While I think sniping is viable in attacking and defending, I do think it can ruin the game, in some situations.
Personally, I think banning the sniper rifle would improve gameplay immensely . Snipers detract from AGR's teamwork philosophy, they focus on getting kills, rather than attacking/ defending THE FLAG, getting killed by a sniper is juts annoying (AND slows down the action), and they often end up sniping at other snipers .... which means there's LESS players actually focussing on the flag, ie what AGR is all about!Jonan wrote:I think there is a few ways of dealing with it.
(1) Ban it out-right. (Disable sniper class, and lock rifle from weapon menu)
Unfortunately, sniping is still VERY popular and getting rid of it would *definitely* lose players. And a silly sentimental part of me still thinks maybe sniping is still part of the 'spirit of TF'... .yea.. anyway..
Maybe.. otoh i like this better:Jonan wrote:(2) Ban it on certain days.
I've actually already programmed this, but haven't had the balls to enable it. Hmm maybe .. it's time?Jonan wrote:(3) Enable sniper rifle when we hit a certain amount of players, maybe in conjunction with the walls.
Both were done years ago. To give credit, Snipers who consistently get kills in AGR are definitely skilled.Jonan wrote:(4) Lessen the maximum damage and/or increase the charge time.
Never thought about this... and ... jeez... (to my surprise) ..I can't think of an objection! But then I rarely snipe .. I'd have to consult w ppl who LOVE sniping, to see how they'd feel about this.. though I suspect they'd object to ANY change.. (it definitely makes sense though!)Jonan wrote:(5) Make it fire a projectile, instead of hitscan.
I dunno if that would improve the situation/change anything.. (apart from annoying snipers)Jonan wrote:(6) Make it more costly.
This has been done, AGR Kevlar enables you to take multiple shots.Jonan wrote:(7) Make kevlar cheaper and / or stackable. So you could take 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 etc damage from stacking extra.
I think Kevlar still protects the head.Jonan wrote:(8) Make a bullet proof helmet available. Blocking the headshot damage.
It already does for Caltrops (slowly) - so yea, ill make it do it for sniper leg damage itself!Jonan wrote:(9) Make the leg shot effect wear off.
There's already a delay where the sniper rifle 'builds power' for a few seconds before each shotJonan wrote:(10) Make a reload time after each shot.
Could get messy, and unpredictable..Jonan wrote:(11) Enable voting on whether the rifle can be used, on a given map.
I think I might start gently, by enabling the current code which says if there are less than x players (I think it's 4), Red cant snipe. Ie something completely reasonable .. though. i think you and I already know who will kick up a big fuss!
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Re: Sniper's Rifle
(12) Make the maximum damage related to the amount of players.
Something like 50 damage x Total Players.
Something like 50 damage x Total Players.
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Re: Sniper's Rifle
Need to fix the message for legs healing, after the sniper hit.
I think it needs the /n at the end.
I've had messages like this
legs are healing...grenade primed. In the same line.
I think it needs the /n at the end.
I've had messages like this
legs are healing...grenade primed. In the same line.
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Hmmm... couldn't see it anywhere, ie all leg heal messages have a "\n" at the end. If you take a screenshot next time I can analyse further.Jonan wrote:Need to fix the message for legs healing, after the sniper hit.
I think it needs the /n at the end.
I've had messages like this
legs are healing...grenade primed. In the same line.