Timeslot, Psions, Caltrops and more!

Hey people!!

Hope you’re all feelin’ good about the brand new year. No vid this week… it’s been a while since I did a text only pre-weekly chat. There’s a lot to go over, so let’s do this in point form:

WEEKLY AGR SESSION TIMESLOT TO CHANGE??
This is important, and this is your LAST CHANCE to vote in the POLL! As I write this, the result of the poll is a CLEAR sign that the Sessions should move to Saturdays. I’m a little hesitant because (as I said in last weeks extended pontification) one of the key things I’m after w these Sessions is consistency, and stability, but you can’t argue with the numbers. Only 1 person said no, and IIRC it was King Of Ping – and this guy is a regular, VIP player. Q: Can I imagine the Sessions without him? A: No.

CYBERAUG + PSION NERFING
Ok I’ve made it so CyberAug now protects you from Psionic grenades, by (greatly) limiting the time you are affected. I’ve also reduced the time players (in general) are affected, and lowered their range slightly. As always this will be reviewed/tested in-game. Psion throwers, please leave your comments on the Psion thread at the AGR FORUM.

CALTROPS
It’s always bugged me that Caltrops cause SO much damage .. I mean if you can’t walk, you’re basically dead. SO I’ve made the effect wear off slowly, so if you step on some of these nasty things, find a secluded corner to hide in until your feet heal.

THE AGR PACKAGE
Progress has stalled due to some amazing technical developments during the week, more info to follow..

THE AGR FORUM
The AGR forum has been fixed, posts can be approved, and a bunch of players have (finally) been registered. If you tried to register  and haven’t heard back, let me know. Most of the details of each Sessions gameplay are already posted in the comments to each weeks pre-match post, and this kind of makes sense. The forum is there for extended discussions, things someone can comment on months, even years later, so I suggest people use it for the important conversations.

 

In the meantime, get ready for some TF insanity and that place where Gurus break a sweat:

What: Weekly AGR Session

Where: tastyspleen.net:26666

When: Sunday 22:00 GMT. Convert this to your timezone here.

Who: You

Why: Because it’s STILL here!

MAP SCHEDULE = TBA, caverns, rock2
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FTE the official AGR Client:

Download the lastest official AGR approved FTE here!

FTE: FAST-MODE!
Also, if you’re using FTE (which you should be for the full AGR experience!) and want it to be as fast as possible, make sure you select ‘fast mode’ (Options->Graphics Presets) and in addition, at the console, type in:

  • r_waterstyle 1
  • cl_nolerp 1

This should exactly match ezquake in terms of responsiveness. Please confirm, in the comments below.

AGR VENTRILLO SERVER
[NOTE:  Ventrillo is being phased out. Here’s a link on how to use AGR Voice2Demo]
We use a voice chat ventrillo for voice chat during AGR games. Download it, install it, and connect to 78.129.193.9, port 4298, AGR (Red+Blue) channels. Password is sent to those on the AGR Mailing List, but if you ask nicely during the game, someone might help you out.

DEMOS
All games are recorded, only the best are uploaded, in the comments section below. All demos are available upon request

11 comments to Timeslot, Psions, Caltrops and more!

  • Wolfgang

    Forum posts still need approval by moderator before they are actually posted. Come on OMC, this prematch discussion is not moderated before posted….neither are other forums.

    I don’t agree with the Psion nerfing (Surprised?). I do know why it has come about. I think myself and Doc have certainly helped the vocal minority in their cause to get this grenade nerfed. Doc’s effective use of mauser/psion on z7 last week and my spy/psion class has no doubt ruffled a few feathers. I suspect it’s the same players complaining and I also know that none of said players can bunnyhop…..are you slow and predictive in Quake? Then you’re easy to hit….WITH ANY GRENADE!

  • Optimus Fine

    Work that poll, guuuurl. Mmmmmhm.

  • Wolfgang

    Relatively bad turnout for this session. Even old regulars are rather ad-hoc about turning up recently and unfortunately this will now include me.

    Had some good times here (especially before the V4 changes) but it seems that the mod is intent to sleep walk to the precipice like a lemming and plunge into further obscurity.
    I’ll dispense with the personal attacks and instead leave this small reminder of what happens when you take a mod down a road only you’re prepared to walk. Enjoy!

    • OneManClan

      Yes, this week broke the record for possibly the slowest start EVER (!!).. and yea, I admit I had a little anxiety when there were like 4 (3?) non spec ppl there for Game2(rock2) – which is normally the ‘main event’. Luckily more people arrived towards the end, and we did actually get to play a decent 2mach1, caverns, and fcast (here’s the demos!!)

      So there’s no need to panic just yet, because turnouts have always gone up and down.. and as Jonan says, there probably is a slump around Christmas and New years. I myself have been so busy I didn’t have time to do a video this week, and Jonan himself is a new ‘convert’ to AGR so.. we are getting new players .. so I wouldn’t start writing AGRs epitaph just yet 🙂

      • Wolfgang

        Can’t say I agree with how you handle your mod OMC but then you already knew that. I’ve seen many players quit (Sapphired and Beltan are just the latest) because of some really unpopular changes forced upon the AGR community. Some have been good ideas but ruined because of poor implementation or lack of coding knowledge such as the V4 stuff. I’m actually not negative about ALL your changes but unfortunately just most of them.

        Not sure when I’ll play again but if you’re going to ask for my advice/help yet always go your own way then can you really blame me for being apathetic?

        Getting more players in like Jonan who are perhaps a little naive and indifferent to stuff is probably the way forward.
        Hope the mod continues but as for me I’ll probably be populating another TF server if there’s a game going

        • OneManClan

          Sapphired’s main issue is the ’email map requests’ policy – which has been there since 2008. Beltan’s been put off by the politics and the constant bitching from some quarters. None of these issues are related to the mod itself.

          Secondly, I’m not aware of anything being “ruined” because of “poor implementation or lack of coding knowledge”. AFAIK, everyone on the Installing AGRv4 page has connected. Apart from the “Armour Restriction for Bunnyhoppers” compromise, I honestly don’t recall any other change you’re overly ‘negative’ about (yes, yes, TM-mode needs ‘refining’).

          Finally, I don’t see Jonan as “naive and indifferent” at all. You’re making it sound like it’s impossible for someone to actually *like* AGR …

          • Wolfgang

            Yeah people have quit for entirely different reasons, that much is true although saying Beltan was put off by other people bitching is quite odd. He was up there with Sapphired and me for complaining!

            Just to avoid confusion about “poor implementation”, I was talking primarily about the V4 changes such as the yellow faces. No need for a history lesson here, you’ll remember just as well as I do about the *issues* despite the black and white instructions on here.

            It’s your mod but I really think you should drop the charade of *asking* players about mod changes when at the end of it you’ll do what you please regardless. Then we can avoid this whole “you don’t listen to us” type complaints…

  • Surely it would slump around Christmas and New Years.

  • OneManClan

    That’s not fair Wolf.
    There’s the people who say “300 Armour BHing is the spirit of TF”… and then there’s the people who say “BHing is a bug exploit and should be banned completely”. At the end of the day, I do my research, talk to the people involved, and as the mod maker, make a decision.
    Just because the decision leaves some people unsatisfied doesn’t mean I didn’t ‘listen’ to them, or that my sincere attempt to reach a compromise was a ‘charade’.

    • Wolfgang

      The research part seems to neglect the bigger half of people who complain about your changes in favour of the vocal minority. The bunny-hopping changes back years ago was a classic example where the forum thread was heaving with disapproval for your nerfs yet despite this you went ahead with it. I don’t want to sound like Sapphired right now when I mention ‘democracy’ but some sort of broad consensus for changes would be better than ‘let OMC decide what is best for us’.

      I appreciate your sincerity and honestly I’ve never had anything against you personally but it would avoid so much conflict if you just make it seem less ‘What do you guys think?’ and more ‘I’ll be making these changes without you’.

  • Beltan

    If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t ask.

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